But Wodun, I LIKE that Hillary lead to the rise of ISIS, sex slavery, genocide, religious persecution, hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, a refugee invasion of Europe, hundreds of terrorist attacks, dead Americans in Benghazi, dead Americans in Europe, and misery and suffering in general. It's not about canceling comedians or ruining clubs lives. Beginning in 2011, through a secret arrangement with the CIA, the State Department was given the power to green-light drone strikes. Oh, yes, I meant that ironically. wait, he just called them all off. We’re good, man. In most countries, people trust their regulatory agencies and have very high rates of vaccination through voluntary programs. Fuck dead Pakistanis just as much as dead Iraqis or Afghanis. I love your username…so random. Kirkman’s thread was launched after a Twitter user criticized her for having a chance to expose C.K. I think dropping vaccinations rates that can and must be fixed in order to get at the vaccination issue: the widespread distrust of the medical-indsutrial complex. Jen Kirkman is a stand-up comedian and the author of the book “I Can Barely Take Care of Myself ” which became an instant New York Times Bestseller when it was released in April 2013. years ago and not going forward with it. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. She’s addressing in a ham-handed way the involvement of corporations in the healthcare industry. That’s bad, whether or not the former causes the latter, She’s addressing in a ham-handed way the involvement of corporations in the healthcare industry, She’s running for President. Is this "intersectional feminism"? Oh yes, it’s sooooo progressive to call refugees invaders. https://t.co/UKDs8KQrsF, — Galway Curiousblue (@iamcuriousblue) August 4, 2016, https://twitter.com/lastlivingrose/status/760999815778041856, https://twitter.com/STLeftist/status/761313833012998144. 6h. It’s for anyone who is, ever has been or ever might be one. Sad. Twitter Tags jen kirkman, bernie sanders, russia, parody, twitter Additional References Twitter About. Tickets are available at thewilbur.com. In another fighting move of his own, Callan took to Twitter on Wednesday to try to bait Drunk History regular Jen Kirkman to join him on his newly launched podcast on … The issue has nothing to do with the FDA or ‘Big Pharma’. Or dead Pakistanis cos fuck them for harbouring bin Laden, right Axecalibur? © @juliussharpe. I doubt Trump hates; he simply loves himself more than anyone else. Why? What are you hoping for, that someone is going to feel sorry for bernie supporters? Jen Kirkman is a lefty sort of comic. In 2009, Entertainment Weekly named her one of the "Top 12 Rising Stars in Comedy," and in May 2010, both MSN and The Huffington Post named her one of the top comedians to follow on social networking service Twitter. I don’t know if we have an “official” stance, but I can tell you my personal stance at this point. PS David gets all the feminism points for implying that a female presidential candidate should drop out because she’s making things difficult. Take that, weirwoodtreehugger, Scented Fucking Hard Chairs, Paradoxical Intention, Johanna Roberts, and others including me! I don’t blame Condi Rice for the Iraq war. ... Second of all, back in 2012/2013, Twitter used to be fun. Yeah she didn’t say a damn thing about vaccines causing autism, She’s an antivaxer, who says stupid shit about autism. Liberals don’t have a real sense of humor. @SFHC Are you maybe thinking of Ken Hovind? Thus, I’m not surprised about the treatment of Ms. Kirkman in the least. Either way, I’m about 99.9% sure that it was a sarcastic comment. I shared to mock (especially in contrast with what we’re seeing here and in the anti-Semitic and misognist memes against Clinton seen in other WHTM posts), not praise. Local politics and midterm elections are so much more important for advancing progressivism. I’m not sure if it’s ramped up lately, or I was in denial about it, or what. You know, the Russian dictator whose actual non-fictional not-a-joke STALIN BODY COUNT added up to something close to 20 million. Someone even took the anti-Kirkman struggle to Wikipedia. Her last stand-up special, Jen Kirkman: I’m Gonna Die Alone (And I Feel Fine), premiered there in 2015. The issue is the entire antivaxx stance is based on a known medical fraud perpetrated by Andrew Wakefield: I don’t get it. If so, oops, sorry, hugs, love you! Because when I read it, I immediately assumed it was poking fun at the “the Clintons murdered Vince Foster” types. That's it. You just spent a week Twitter-feuding with Seth Rogen. NOTE 8/5: Just a reminder for new commenters: defending or excusing harassment is against the comment policy here. o.O. Feb 10. Stein is a delusional crank. … Comedian Goes On Twitter Strike To Protest Harassment Of Female Comics Eric Murphy November 29, 2012. And people wonder why the world is crumbling. I’m breaking my promise and returning to share this with y’all. Jaya Saxena is a lifestyle writer and editor whose work focuses primarily on women's issues and web culture. I sometimes make “Hillary personally ran Vince over with a train” comments to people I know and who also know that these conspiracies are stupid. Jen Kirkman Talks Russian Twitter Bots | What A Joke | Netflix Is … Her writing has appeared in GQ, ELLE, the Toast, the New Yorker, Tthe Hairpin, BuzzFeed, Racked, Eater, Catapult, and others. Jen Kirkman made a joke on Twitter yesterday that set up a big chain of events ending with Kirkman saying she’s taking time away from tweeting and reading tweets. It is just one of many which show there is some serious, SERIOUS hatred and violence infused rhetoric on the Left. Even if that op ed from a little known blog was convincing, consider on that list of tactics not one of them was threaten a comic who happens to support the opposing candidate en masse. In a world of Netflix specials and podcasts and Twitter, why would a stand-up comedian still put out an old-fashioned comedy album? It’s why I included myself as one of people hit by the “take that”. Red Pill romancer plans to pull the birds with a fake British accent, 26 creepy, threatening or otherwise completely inappropriate vintage Valentine’s Day cards, Some of the Capitol attackers have histories of abuse against women? Where exactly does feminism say women shouldn’t be criticised? Jen Kirkman does not actually “LIKE that Hillary has murdered a lot of people,” in part because she (Kirkman) does not LIKE murder and in part because she does not believe that Hillary has, in fact, murdered a lot of people. Unfortunately, many of those who encountered Kirkman’s Tweet on Twitter — a large number of whom seem to be former Bernie Sanders supporters who’ve gone over the Green Party’s Jill Stein — have kind of missed the point just a little, misreading it as some sort of creepy celebration of drones murdering children in Afghanistan, or something. Wow, are the people harassing Jen Kirkman taking time out of their busy hate-barrage schedule to try to convince people to vote for their candidate? Of course, this is Paste Magazine, which also had a recent piece on why Clinton can’t be trusted to appoint a better Supreme Court nominee than Trump (mostly due to her VP Kaine and because of Citizens United: “Equally distressing to this half-measure talk is the reality that without the controversial 2010 court ruling there would be no Hillary Clinton nomination.”). She also says she’s received death threats and other abuse. Sad. She used to have a great twitter account to follow, too. It's about making people who book rapists have to put up with some uncomfortable feedback of their business decisions. In fact, pointing to the Right continually seems often like a distraction from the hatred on the Left. In today’s anti-intellectual environment, anything that causes “uneasy feelings” is attempted to be suppressed. So, the punchline of the joke is not those suffering people; you are the punchline. The Left is, in fact, in denial about the amount of hate which exists in it’s ranks. Sad, but not surprising. Facebook Twitter … On Jen Kirkman’s birthday. If it was the former, they’d be posting it on Twitter towards the harassers, not here towards us. @scentedfuckinghardchairs- so it would seem. The world’s population was 4,003,448,151 and there were an estimated 121,673,775 babies born throughout the world in 1974, Richard Nixon (Republican) was the president of the United States, and the number one song on Billboard 100 was "(You're) Having My Baby" by Paul Anka with Odia Coates. Here are a small fraction of the Tweets sent to her. It’s normal. So y’know, most of the people of the commenting here are basically factually wrong. It lead to the rise of ISIS, sex slavery, genocide, religious persecution, hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced …, Nope, definitely Hoving… Eh, I’m sure I’ll remember after I’ve had my morning coffee. They’re a bit like the people who thought Stalin was too lax in the forced collectivizations and wanted the USSR to get more serious about violently spreading revolution to other countries. https://twitter.com/lastlivingrose/status/761283232260362240. Comedian Jen Kirkman is not quitting Twitter, but not not quitting Twitter, either, after tweeting a questionable joke about Hillary Clinton. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. Right-wing hatred is far more prevalent and more dangerous, but the amount of anger, targeted harassment and scapegoating, violent rhetoric and outright violence from the left in recent years is definitely unsettling. Thus it’s not at all “clear” that it was a reference to right-wing theories. Comedian Jen Kirkman is not quitting Twitter, but not not quitting Twitter, either, after tweeting a questionable joke about Hillary Clinton. Hillary and Obama went to war in Libya without congressional approval. You’ve seen Jen on her regular appearances on Comedy Central’s @midnight. So, somebody’s failed Feminism 101 here, but it ain’t David. He’s a fundie creationist type. I want them imprisoned for the torture program, ignoring habeas corpus, Cheney outing a CIA agent, etc. A+ feminism. @kettle- Irony is when the intended meaning is the opposite of the literal meaning. @Repentantphonebooth: The analysis in this post is pretty poorly thought out. The joke is a clear reference to the right-wing Clinton-haters who have been trying their best, for the last quarter century, to convince the world that Bill and Hillary have been secretly knocking off their political enemies, mob style, racking up a CLINTON BODY COUNT that is now said to number 48. Bonus points.). The strange case of “Scuffed Elliot Rodger”, “I WILL NEVER RAISE ANOTHER MAN’S CHILD,” declares MGTOW in epic(ally stupid) rant, Wot’s all this then? Curiously, the criticism is much harsher than anything we see hurled at people supporting Trump… you know… the fascist whose potential presidency makes not supporting Clinton such an act of lunacy. I would be surprised, except I read the Daily KOS article that I’m linking earlier today. The lady who wrote the rotten tweet to oswald has made her personal account private, but the replies to the screenshot are predictably awful and some of her personal information is available. Unless it is what she means, in which case she can have a seat, You know, like JK really meant the Vince Foster thing and not lol dead Afghanis, I could not possibly care what she meant. Hope that helps!! Ted Cruz. (*I’m so old I remember who Hillary Clinton was before she murdered Vince Foster! And instead of stopping for a second to ask themselves, “wait, is this comedian lady who does those hilarious yet disarmingly earnest segments on Drunk History really mocking or even advocating the murder of children, why would she do that, that can’t be right” many of these people decided to advocate the murder of her. Join Jen Kirkman and her surprise guests for the variety show filled with comedy, stories, sketch, music and more that brings together both lovers and haters of the holiday season! She’s a random asshole who said a random asshole thing. He’s a douchebag. She also supports funding to organic farming. Benevolent sexism is still sexism. It s a joke about the right-wing idiots who think that Hillary goes around offing people like some pastel-pantsuited Tony Soprano. (((VioletBeauregarde))): Prominent Misanderer of the Gynocracy. Hillary and Obama went to war in Libya without congressional approval, If Hillary wasn’t a Democrat, Democrats would be calling for her imprisonment, I should hope not. Oh wow, it is true- you really think the best time to talk about your favourite candidate is during the harassment campaign of a female comic by your fellow bernie bros. I can see where if someone were younger (or hadn’t been following the “controversies” for the last couple of decades) and had heard a lot of talk about Hillary being a hawk, they might interpret it that way and assume it was a comment about the recent military actions abroad. I’ve criticized Sanders and Stein before and am therefore one of the “mean girls”. If people care more about the causes than getting the opportunity to be smug, they’ll put the work in on the non-presidential years too. I’ve been lax on bans in this thread so far but that’s over now. Most of the actual leftists who got angry at the tweet seemed too feel that it was a reference to Hillary’s foreign policies killing people in other countries and not to the right-wing conspiracy theories like Vince Foster. If Stein can’t figure that out, she’s too dumb to be in politics. If they wanted to hang around with the cool crowd, they had to remove their aluminum foil antenna from their heads, lick off their patchouli, and sit in the back, silent, hands-folded, and listening to the winners. Julius Sharpe. And I can’t even say “It’s just not your sense of humour,” because it is, you just replace “Laughing at ridiculous, hateful, idiotic conspiracy theorists” with “Laughing at women, PoC, LGBT+ people, poor people, overweight people, etc.”, Also, I totally recognise Hoving’s name as being a literal neo-Nazi, but I can’t track him down on WHTM. Saying a shitty thing is shitty, and bringing a dead loved one into a discussion is low, but is it twitter hordes low? A lot of “progressive” people online can be a little out of touch with reality and fall into what’s historically been considered “ultraleft” in communist circles. So, e.g., putting having an idealized vision of how things should be over getting stuff done, opposing the Democrats just as much as the GOP, criticizing feminism and other forms of identity politics “from the left,” etc. Stinky, crazy, loud-mouthed losers, needed to get in line, sit down and shut up, immediately. A n anecdote late in Jen Kirkman’s show takes place in New York on 9/11, and uses the US comic and podcaster’s self-serving reaction to the disaster to poke fun at her own solipsism. Not only do I not like any of those things, I don’t believe Hillary’s actions lead to those things. Jen Kirkman before a 2011 taping of Chelsea Lately. You sounded so reasonable until you hit the “unhinged-Muslim-hating-racist-Donald-Trump” macro. I suggest substitution with cynical. ), (Also anyone who’s been on Drunk History? This cultural trend means: Abandon your minds, sheeple, and do not independently asses the ideas put forth by others. You see, the humour device I am using here is called irony. Or dead Pakistanis cos fuck them for harbouring bin Laden, right Axecalibur? Look what they are doing now. So the foxes are guarding the chicken coop as usual in the US. Perhaps, she should quit being so hamfisted and say what she means. Jen Kirkman is a lefty sort of comic. Learn how your comment data is processed. It’s kind of hard to take the “it’s racist to vote for Hillary Clinton” talking point seriously when you say shit like this. ', Video shows man calling police on Black TikToker for no apparent reason, Homeless Black man killed by cop after being stopped for jaywalking, new video shows, Video shows moment passengers broke out in applause for pilot who landed Boeing 777 safely, Man allegedly pushes pregnant wife off cliff after taking selfies. wow. They aren’t Trump fans pretending to be BernieBros. Instead, accept “the consensus,” and be driven by your feelings; human whim will lead to a better world; majority whim, “democracy,” is the ideal. Also, a big part of feminism is that women aren’t perfect – they shouldn’t be hated or discriminated against because of their gender, but they shouldn’t be shielded, either. Yeah she didn’t say a damn thing about vaccines causing autism. And that’s actually what got a bunch of bernie bros jammies in a knot. Would love your thoughts, please comment. I just wanted to say that maybe the interpretation of the joke depends on age/political awareness. Orac’s in-depth analysis of Jill Stein’s antivaccine dog whistles is here and it is worth a read. According to the most recent review of vaccination policies across the globe, mandatory vaccination that doesn’t allow for medical exemptions is practically unheard of. that was intense. There is no scientific evidence that organic food is healthier than non-organic food and higher cost would be a food security issue. Before we look at what happened after she posted this Tweet (which has now been deleted), let me just say a couple of things about the Tweet itself. The Left loves to point to things on the Right which show hatred and the like (sometimes legit, sometimes not) and yet tends to ignore the seething, ugly morass of it underneath it’s own feet. So are you going to respond to the point that others have made about you sizing the symbol “female” in order to shame someone when you are yourself using it in a bigoted manner? I found this out after reading the following op-ed: Little did we know, the media was actually pulling its punches. Also also, aren’t you anti-Hillary trolls constantly shouting “You’re only defending/voting for Hillary because she’s a woman”? Take note of the doubtful, introspective tone of the comment you obviously didn’t comprehend. She used to have a great twitter account to follow, too. They just laugh at ridicule of people or causes they don’t like. I don’t know who Jen Kirkman is, but I’m instinctively on her side. THAN YOU ARE MAKING IT! If you don’t believe me, go look at the accounts of the people whose Tweets I quoted above, or go directly to @JenKirkman’s mentions now, where you can find hundreds if not thousands more Tweets like this. It lead to the rise of ISIS, sex slavery, genocide, religious persecution, hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced, a refugee invasion of Europe, hundreds of terrorist attacks, dead Americans in Benghazi, dead Americans in Europe, and misery and suffering in general. 2021 We Hunted The Mammoth. It’s a name with a story, but for another day……. That’s… Still a sense of humour, dude. Comedian Jen Kirkman talks about Boston, her new comedy album, and if Elizabeth Warren's Twitter crusade against Donald Trump has been effective. Jen Kirkman criticized Jezebel both on Twitter and to other outlets, implying that we had somehow spearheaded a campaign against her in order to … JEN KIRKMAN ‍ retweeted. And, even then, I don’t want them imprisoned for the war itself, nor the aftermath. Jen Kirkman ... Posted on February 26, 2009 | 4 comments. @kettle I can’t take seriously the people who only get fired up every four years for a candidate that does not have an even remote chance of winning. Unhinged, very possibly, but the rest of it is lazy. Jen talks about the latest gender reveal party that ended in tragedy, idiots on Twitter, Adam Carolla is afraid of bracelets, a teenaged op-ed in The NY Times that is enraging, the story of Dutch resistance fighter teenaged girls who killed Nazis in the woods, and Jen talks about how she loved not having an allowance as a kid. In a display of shameless schadenfreude, the media gleefully mocked Sanders supporters for being emotionally weak and cognitively damaged. And thanks, Violet!! In other words, the joke is not actually a joke about murder. She also thinks GMO’s should be banned until they are proven safe, even though there is no evidence that they are not safe. The Daily Dot has reached out to Kirkman about the joke, but has not heard back as of this posting. Now she’s back with another, Jen Kirkman: Just Keep Livin’?, which is available now on the streaming service. Turning around with “You’re not allowed to criticise Stein because she’s a woman” is beyond hypocritical. But I never see it. However, it didn’t quite land, and many began criticizing her for making light of the wars Clinton has had a hand in. 4. I’ve seen enough to decide. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Patton Oswald just sicced his two million or so followers on some Canadian lady who wrote him an incredibly heartless tweet. In Milan Kundera’s The Joke, set in Communist Czechoslovakia in the 1950s, a young Czech intellectual and Communist Party member is tossed from the party and sent to work in the mines after he jokingly writes “long live Trotsky” on a postcard. The joke seemed to reference drone strikes, and riff on hardcore Hillary supporters who try to spin everything she does as positive. Yeah, most of these anti-Hillary ideological purity obsessed people that have come out of the woodwork recently seem much more concerned with feeling right than with any actual political or policy goals. And yes, that last dude is using a photo of a young Josef Stalin as his avatar. Earlier today, Kirkman posted an image overlaid with text saying she’ll “have someone else run [her] account for a while,” and won’t be interacting with fans. Were his previous posts deleted, or did I see him elsewhere? (Photo: E. Bradshaw via Wikimedia Commons) I blame Bush and Cheney. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy. She could have said literally anything. “I like that she’s murdered people” = “I don’t think she actually murdered people”. Oswald told her to fuck right off into the sun (sensible reply, imo) and she deleted the tweet. — JEN KIRKMAN (@JenKirkman) September 21, 2020. So who wouldn’t be skeptical? 2016 Democrats: Actually, murder is good and every war Clinton escalates and initiates will be awesome@JenKirkman pic.twitter.com/eje3RMlQXx, — Ben Norton (@BenjaminNorton) August 4, 2016, So, progressive Hillarybots – are you going to stand by @JenKirkman on this? Once Hillary won the nomination and Vermont senator graciously and enthusiastically endorsed her, the gloves really came off. I don’t believe Stein is an anti-vaxxer, but she supports a number of positions that are unscientific Green Party baggage. And for Clinton, the authorization process was optimized for convenience: she could okay drone strikes straight from her cellphone. She’s trying not to alienate the more left wing anti-vaxxers who might consider voting for her. ‘Vote Stein, the candidate for the sociopathic troll!’. The people bombarding Kirkman with threats and abuse aren’t Trump fans. Democrats want a week of political theater raging at Donald Trump instead of focusing on reopening schools or getting millions of Americans back to work. U.S. foreign policy actually does kill people. Liberty is all but dead. A+ progressiveness everybody. Folks “progressively” making those twitter threats, with those words, and simultaneously not getting the (older than the Internet) joke liberals have been making* since Newt Gingrich was on his first wife? This would be a reasonable inference since Kirkman had been arguing with left-wing Hillary critics (and not with right-wing conspiracy theorists) prior to posting that tweet. Just remember, on Twitter, nobody can hear your tone. You see, I’ve been made aware of the truth that everyone here at WHTM who has ever criticized Stein, Sanders, or either’s supporters are savage bullies who love to nutpick, taunt, misrepresent, and humiliate like Regina George. A polished hour that finds Kirkman waxing rhapsodic on everything from meditation to abortion, Just Keep Livin’? I can’t even tell if the “liberals are humorless” posts are referencing the liberals who threatened Kirkman for not liking her jokes or if they’re saying we’re humorless because we don’t think the misogyny directed at her is funny. I don’t believe any of them were deficient enough not to understand there was some irony at play, they were just sore because they were being dismissed and so they lashed out like an army of screaming children. There are many possible responses to that fact, but “haha I think it’s great” isn’t a particularly tasteful one. IT IS SO MUCH SIMPLER AND WAY MORE FUN (it's punk rock!!!) Not the first time Oswald’s done something like this. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. The next time your read or hear something talking about all the “hatred” and “vitriol” coming from the right, keep this little incident in mind. That is not at all. Still, don’t threaten her. Jen Kirkman performs Friday, Sept. 13, at 7:30 p.m. at the Wilbur, 246 Tremont St, Boston. That strikes me as something of an irony. Of course death threats and harassment are indefensible, but it’s dishonest to suggest that Kirkman was 100% right and her only critics are misogynistic bros. I’ll grant you that. 2021 ... a Larry King story, more comedians getting Covid, struggles with a duvet cover, earnest people are ruining Twitter, and how working from bed is good for you. In fact, I think you are being silly for believing that to be the case. It’s bad, and I don’t like that it’s normal for me, but it is. Ya know, actual crimes. If you think that being a feminist means all women should be immune to criticism, then you’re not one. These are people who, in many instances, consider themselves progressives, radicals, anarchists, “revolutionaries.” These are, in more than a few cases, proud supporters of Jill Stein, a woman whose presence in the race makes it all that much harder to defeat the unhinged Muslim-hating racist Donald Trump. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. So yesterday comedian Jen Kirkman posted a little joke on Twitter, as comedians are wont to do. 88k Followers, 707 Following, 4,330 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Jen Kirkman (@jenkirkman) Post was not sent - check your email addresses! 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